. >> wayne lapierre does not agree s. that right? >> just because you have somebody in leadership that doesn't agree with that as far as speaking upon that, i'm not going to speak for them. i'm looking at it from a reasonable, responsible approach to be taken by legitimate gun owners like myself. we are protecting the second amendment rights and should be some gun sense and we are talking and i don't want to go in to specifics because we've been working pretty strongly for this and hopefully we'll have something soon. >> you mentioned you're a member of the nra and universal background check is necessary and needed, something to support. that is counter to the head of the nra wayne lapierre. is there a clear divide? are you saying that the members of the nra are no longer willing to go with the leadership? >> no. i'm saying that you can respectfully respect someone else's opinion. >> right. >> i respectfully disagree on that. but i still respect their position on it. i don't agree with it. and that's the problem. we keep trying to dr